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Post by Warrior on Feb 13, 2019 15:47:03 GMT -8
As mentioned in the announcement, I felt that having a traditional event this month wouldn't be wise for reasons more or less covered there.
Instead, I decided to go back to roots and have a sort of "Community Event" to keep the community interested (including those that aren't on Discord).
So many have heard about this: Death Battle is going to have a "Battle Royale" between all the different Megaman Series. Let's make a fun game out of it!
The Battle Royale pits Classic, X, Volnutt, EXE, and SF Megamen against each other. If you can predict the outcome, get rewarded here on MMM!
For Participating: All of your Navis may have the Valentine's Day Crest that was originally intended to coincide with the cancelled "Valentine's Day event"
Cupid's Bow The power of affection imbued into the form of an arm-mounted bow. ° At will, User may convert any of their Charged Attacks to Roll Arrow upon use (Damage is kept; All Non-C Effects are replaced) ° Recovery Effects from Chips applied to this Navi gain +10% Efficiency (Increased by +5% for each correct prediction of the Battle Royale) ° User restores 50 HP when they land an attack on its primary target (Increased by +25 for each correct prediction of the Battle Royale)
For Predicting 1 correctly: You get 1 Gold MD and 5 BugFrag
For Predicting 2 correctly: You get 3 Green MDs (and all of the above)
For Predicting 3 correctly: You get 2 BMDs (and all of the above)
For Predicting 4 correctly: You get 1 HMD OR 1 CMD OR a Random Giga Chip (and all of the above)
For Predicting all 5 correctly: An Omni Cross OR Omni Star (and all of the above)
Rewards can be split up among your Navis as desired.
Votes are only valid if they are submitted before the Death Battle video is uploaded. If the post is edited after the video is uploaded, the vote is void!
Let's have fun with it guys! Feel free to post the reasons behind each of your votes, or just list off your predictions if that's all you have time for.
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Post by Warrior on Feb 13, 2019 15:58:58 GMT -8
Update 1:
Classic Megaman's mini rundown was uploaded. Some valid observations: - He gets to use Rush - He has access to the Gear System from MM11 - It doesn't seem he's limited to only 8 Weapons at a time - Feats were taken from mostly in-game material
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Post by Warrior on Feb 13, 2019 17:13:34 GMT -8
MY VOTES
Currently, my predictions go as follows:
5th Place
Megaman Volnutt (Legends Series)
While he is one of my personal favorites, I don't think he holds up as well against the other series' representatives. He has some good defensive tools (Shield Arm, Armor Upgrades, Energy Canteen), some really good offensive tools (arguably the strongest base buster, Shining Laser, Drill Arm), and some decent maneuverability (Jet Skates, Jump Spring, and various boots to respond to most of the Stage Abilities of EXE and SF).
His battle experience is also lacking compared to the others (unless we count his pre-reincarnated experiences), but is probably the most independent among them so he'll likely receive points for that (BN needs Lan, SF needs Omega-Xis, Classic greatly benefits from Rush, and X was carried by Zero early in the series unquestionably).
There aren't very many ways to gauge his Durability or maximum power output, so DB will most likely base their assumptions off of his best in-game feat which I can't really see matching up to the things other Megamen have done, sadly.
He's the number 1 underdog though.
4th Place
Megaman EM (Starforce Series)
Admittedly, I just don't know much about him so figured I'd bite the bullet and put him above Volnutt (even though he's very comparable to EXE). I've played SF1 and SF2, but not remotely as dedicated as others titles.
Why I think he doesn't match up to the others: - Less experience than all of the remaining Megamen - To my memory, most Cards were like watered down Chips - "Best Combos" were inferior to PA's (again: to my memory)
Navis were de-evolved in his era, so it wouldn't be a fair comparison to say that he's stronger than a Navi just because none held a candle to him in his own series. Technology was more advanced, but being that EM Battling was less public of a thing, the combat I feel would be less refined (less competition for him to overcome; most of the enemies I fought in SF1 and SF2 were first-time EM'ers, so it's like a child being stronger than a baby in terms of combat ability. The FM-ians had their share of experience, sure, but it always seemed the enemies took on more traits of the human in the conversion than the FM-ian.)
The exceptions are of course the "big bosses" like Andromeda... whatever SF2's final boss was... and whatever came in SF3. Rogue may have challenged him as well, and he also had a looot of forms and transformations to dip into (Admin Star Breaks, OOPArt Forms, Noise Forms, Joker/Ace forms) and even had the ability to merge multiple forms at once which just goes into crazy levels of power if you think about it. Add this with the utility Cards bring (Panels, wide-range of weaponry, Auras, Recovery, etc) and top it off with his innate Shield and Lock On. He's pretty formidable.
Brother Bands can add more power I think, but now I'm really scrapping the bottom of the barrel of what I know about him. If he wins, then imo it's a hard-carry on Omega-Xis' part, because as far as I could tell he just had a special ability that few people in his world had access to (which there's nothing wrong with, but it's difficult to reach your full potential with less people to push you there, basically).
3rd Place
Megaman Classic (Classic Series)
Arguably the most experienced fighter (even fighting against extra-terrastial beings like Duo and the Stardroids), much stronger than most people perceive (insert the holding-up-Wily's-castle example), amazing assortment of special weapons, and just enough special forms (via Rush) to edge him above SF in my opinion.
He's one of only two Megamen with the ability to completely stop time (that I am aware of), has great durability and longevity (E-Tank/W-Tank), is mobile enough to keep up with the faster forms of other Megamen (arguably), and apparently not limited to 8 Special Weapons like I would have assumed at first.
Going against him, his Special Weapons have limited ammunition and his basic buster isn't that spectacular. The majority of his opponents aren't necessarily "combat specialists" (usually designed for recreational purposes, ie construction, then repurposed for combat), but he's certainly fought and taken down his share of straight up "death machines" during his time. The variety of opponents he has defeated (stronger than him, faster than him, smarter than him) speaks volumes of his combat prowess: he's really good at finding ways to win.
2nd Place
Megaman EXE (BN Series)
It's a really tough call between EXE and X for the best contender. EXE, in my opinion, has the most raw power if he's allowed to have everything he's ever had access to (Styles, Souls, Crosses, DS, Beasts, all PAs, all Chips, Sub Chips, Programs, etc).
If Manga and Anime are taken into account, then he has even more feats that I don't even know about (which will undoubtedly be used for reference by DB Cast to put numbers on his feats). He's defeated multiple entities capable of destroying his alternate reality (even fought the embodiment of his literal world in the form of Alpha), has also fought extraterrestrial beings (Duo) during which time he redirected a meteor that was physically falling toward earth (compare to Eurasia, which X himself didn't actually address, Zero did), and excelled in a world where anyone could have stripped his title of "the strongest" from him at any moment.
This puts him far above SF in my eyes: prodigy or not, there was far more competition in his universe for him to overcome, which ultimately refined him into being a far stronger fighter than he ever would have otherwise been.
Against Classic, who has certainly beaten bigger and better opponents than himself, EXE is just on a whole other level of stronger, faster, and tougher. I'd say Classic is smarter and far more experienced, but EXE also has a multitude of Chips to cover whatever weakness he would find (Invis, Shadow, Aura, and many forms to give defenses like these on demand). EXE can stage-change which Classic can only deal with in one of his forms (that does eventually expire).
EXE's greatest weaknesses, in my opinion, are that he relies heavily on Lan (so no Full Synchro, no Battle Chips, no Souls, no Programs if Lan is either taken away or not allowed to be present) and that he's been defeated more than any of the other Megaman and even died. While he has certainly gotten stronger after each fall, it also shows a tangible "upper limit" of his durability that I'm sure DB will use against him to determine just how much it takes to bring him down.
Details surrounding everything he has access to are still unknown though. I still fully believe he could end up winning it all depending on how the fight goes and what all he's allowed to have. After all, as a Battle Royale (not a Round Robin), he could take advantage of other's exploiting others' weakness for him. He has experience fighting multiple powerful enemies at once, so it isn't far out of his comfort zone like it may be for Volnutt or SF who generally stick to only one big baddy at a time.
1st Place
Megaman X (X Series)
It may be my bias speaking, but X truly does hold the most potential in my opinion. He has a really healthy selection of forms to deal with most of his oppositions' Advanced Forms, but the main difference is a significant one: everyone else's form will expire at some point (many times leaving them in a weakened state), but X's never expire (excluding X-Fire and CM Ultimate).
His sub-weapon selection is as versatile as (if not more) than Classic Megaman's, but also shares a limited amount of ammunition. On top of this, multiple armors have the ability to power up Sub-Weapons even stronger with Charges, he has methods of restoring his ammunition (W-Tank), access to a Time-Stop ability (which is huge imo) and other bizarre weapons like Soul Body.
His longevity is probably the best with multiple methods of restoring health (one of them just by standing still while in the Golden Armor from X3), many defensive tools (multiple of which grant invulnerability), and multiple Giga Attacks that charge up as he takes damage (meaning he still has ways of dishing out big damage even when weakened).
His mobility is probably the best as well, with access to unlimited flight (Falcon Armor), Gliding and Hovering from various armors, wall kicking, Dashing, and the list goes on. Literally everything shy of in-combat teleporting (which SF and EXE can do, but only offensively). If he has access to the Z-Saber like in X6: even better. If not: he still has the Blade and Shadow Armors to contend with EXE and SF's seemingly preference to close-quarters combat. Maybe I'm downplaying the others a bit, but at the very least X should be able to keep up with anyone else.
His combat experience is the top among all Megamen in terms of Race vs Same Race, but I don't think he's ever fought extra-terrestials so he has a bit of a shortcoming there. He hasn't necessarily fought anybody capable of one-shotting his planet or an embodiment of his planet like EXE has, but it's difficult to determine how heavily DB will weigh the Real World vs the Cyber World on that front.
X has fought in the Cyber World on multiple occasions and performs just fine, has enough resistance to be unaffected by the Maverick Virus (and was even kept asleep for a century after being created to ensure he wouldn't corrupt), and has survived some serious blows that would arguably have killed other Megaman (being shot through the chest by Sigma, 1v1'ing Zero a few times, etc).
I think that's the main draw to him that I have: he's only been "defeated" once canonically (by Vile in MMX1), and even in cases where the enemy was exceedingly more powerful than his current power level, he was still able to fend them off (High Max), which other Megaman can't necessarily say (they're either Knocked Out or blown away). He's dealt with pseudo-invulnerability (again, High Max, but also Gate) and still come out on top, which again, most other Megamen can't say. With a full selection of Armors, Sub-Weapons, and abilities he's acquired throughout his life, it's hard to find anyone else on his caliber.
In the end, EXE may possibly win by technicality, but I think X has the highest odds.
Feel free to discuss!
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Post by Nightshade on Feb 14, 2019 2:34:54 GMT -8
For me the thing is simple: Volnutt comes last, Starforce boy is 4th, Megaman is 3rd, X is 2nd and obvioulsy EXE is first. Exe just has too many forms that can be used, being able to literally adapt to any kind of situation.
Plus, you know, Beast powers are on a whole other level. Auto tracking, speed, damage boost, super armor. No one can compete with that. I speak with experience here ;3
Also, thank for the free crest! That's gonna help.
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Post by Wackoguy on Feb 14, 2019 8:41:30 GMT -8
Here's how I think it'll go: - First Place: Megaman X; Pretty much the top-contender, even if he was bailed out of trouble by Zero a few
(dozen)? times. - 2nd Place: 'OG' Megaman aka 'The Blue Bomber
- 3rd Place: Megaman.EXE; Here's hoping he's given the Support / chips /
BeastOuts and other transformations / power-ups to make a strong stand. - 4th place: StarForce Megaman aka 'Warrock'
- 5th place [Dead Last]: Megaman Volnutt - if this comes down to powering up and such, he's most likely to wind up in trouble, I think.
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Post by xoDeathy on Feb 21, 2019 18:56:36 GMT -8
For now Im just going to put something down in case I get too busy and never have the time to research. I went 0-16 on my League predictions for Worlds so what could go wrong!!
5th - Megaman Volnutt
4th- Megaman Classic
3rd- Megaman EXE
2nd- Megaman X
1st- Megaman Starforce
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Post by Warrior on Feb 25, 2019 12:46:52 GMT -8
Heads up, there's a "early viewing" of the episode today on some other site apparently. So while you're still allowed to enter a vote or edit your old posts, it's encouraged that you don't cheat if you decide to do so.
Since we're a small and trustworthy bunch, I'm just going to enforce the Honor System here and nothing more. Best of luck on your votes everyone!
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Post by ~Divine|<3|Heart~ on Feb 26, 2019 5:57:33 GMT -8
I know absolutely nothing about Megaman beyond Starforce and Battle Network, so:
1. Megaman BN
2. Megaman Classic
3. Megaman X Series
4. Megaman Starforce
5. Megaman Volnutt (?)
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Post by Warrior on Feb 27, 2019 13:07:37 GMT -8
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Post by ~Divine|<3|Heart~ on Mar 1, 2019 4:38:35 GMT -8
Can someone just list out the winners please? Between the terrible puns, annoying voices, etc; I don't think I have the mental fortitude to re-watch this and try to understand what is going on. I only know that BN came in first.
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Post by Nightshade on Mar 1, 2019 12:54:16 GMT -8
</div> Megaman Exe won. Starforce/X tied for 2nd technically classic is third volnutt is last.
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Post by Warrior on Mar 1, 2019 15:08:55 GMT -8
^ this. If you put X or SF as 2nd or 3rd (whichever order) you can take full credit since no "ties" can really be predicted. So final results are:
Myself and Wacko: 1 Correct Get +1 BF, +1 GoldMD Crest Effect 1: +15% Recovery Efficiency (Total) Crest Effect 2: +75 HP when landing attacks on primary target (Total)
Nightshade, XoDeathy, Div: 3 Correct Get +1 BF, +1 GoldMD, +3 Green MD, +2 BMD Crest Effect 1: +25% Recovery Efficiency (Total) Crest Effect 2: +125 HP when landing attacks on primary target (Total)
Congrats everyone!
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Post by ~Divine|<3|Heart~ on Mar 1, 2019 15:23:33 GMT -8
...are you kidding me?
Honestly, I didn’t know what I was voting on. I thought this was some kind of popularity poll battle or something.
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Post by Wackoguy on Mar 2, 2019 19:04:06 GMT -8
...that's amazing that you hit the mark without even knowing what's going on then.
Kinda like cutting the correct wire to defuse a bomb without any training.
But anyway, yes...congrats everyone! A bit surprised our boy Rockman.EXE came in first, but it's a victory.
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Post by ~Divine|<3|Heart~ on Mar 3, 2019 6:37:43 GMT -8
Also, question, was it even possible to get only four correct? I keep doing the combinations in my head and I don’t see it.
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